Curse

Master Sword Keeper · Apr 16, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

i dont seriously know why other players are trying to make it just that much harder to do anything in this game...

Takin Cons out of certain areas or allowing only one set to be used in an area nerfs absoulutely everything.

*pauses*

oh noes...does this mean ursan fow will be finished? or does that mean My bonder will be of use again?

Siirius Black · Apr 16, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

i dont seriously know why other players are trying to make it just that much harder to do anything in this game...

Takin Cons out of certain areas or allowing only one set to be used in an area nerfs absoulutely everything.

*pauses*

oh noes...does this mean ursan fow will be finished? or does that mean My bonder will be of use again?

They dont want you to be able to farm those areas. That way they can still do it and sell you stuff overpriced

Fear Me! · Apr 16, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

/signed. I agree with the OP's idea of weighing consumes so players will be more conscious of their use rather than pop one any chance they get in an elite area. This makes sense as even Chimera of Intensity, a really powerful npc cast spell which has several partywide buffs, lasts only but a few minutes. Please elaborate a bit more, I disagree on making them cost more skillpoints, as that would offset those players who do not have enough skill points and who truly rely on using a consume as a last resort.

jiggles · Apr 16, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

Cons weren't implemented for giggles, they're there to help people who are really stuck on something get out of the position. sure some of the more experienced players or complete newbies may use them a lot. But last time i checked there wasn't a rule on what you can and cant do with them.

overall i have about 1000 skill points lying around, and on the rare occasion i do use cons i don't go out straight away and buy another set. so you really think id care if they cost an extra 9 skill points?

N1ghtstalker · Apr 16, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

/notsigned
have you seen the prices of feathers? djeez you'd pay yourself blue on those

the_jos · Apr 16, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

I don't agree.
First of all, consumables are a considerable gold and material sink at the rate they are used.
The elite areas and maybe a vanquish will pay them back but the initial cost is high. You start with a loss when you use them and not with 0 cash.

Second, smart people use consumables in certain situations.
I might use them when I have a group that is not optimal for a certain task but want to do something hard together on specific characters.
Let's take for example FoW.
People want the HoM statue but for a specific character.
So when we organize something people might not be willing to switch characters. Or they can't because they stopped playing other professions because they work on titles with only one.
Meaning in those situations people will have to sacrifice or the run will not even start with that team.
For me being able to play together as full team is more important then having an obtimal team build and if consumables enable us to do something together I will use them.
If I want speed and success I will organize very tight and if I can't get the right professions together leave human players behind and start taking heroes.
I never felt the need to use consumables in teams I fully control.

How others play is their business, consumables are their gold sink.
Or mine when I decide to PUG in certain areas where people demand them a lot.
Consumables are expensive enough for their purpose.

MithranArkanere · Apr 16, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

No.

Increase in price only helps those with more income, removing their real use:
- Help most casual players, like those that play at weekends only.

Everything in this kind of game is like that: The more you play the more you get.

Reducing their duration to 5 or 10 minutes would work much better, since people would tend to use them in certain points only, like Boss fights.

MirkoTeran · Apr 16, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Like anything in this forum, a suggestion that makes anything a bit herder gets bunch of people QQing and LOLs.

I dont think this is the best idea ever, but any fix to current cons or PvE only stuff is better then nothing. Signed I guess.

zamial · Apr 16, 2008, 05:17 PM // 17:17

The problem is not the con sets, which I do not use. The problem is the blatantly over powered ursan. If ursan wasn't over powered why don't you see mixed blessing groups? like 2 ursan a raven and a wolf?

I agree that con sets make hard mode into normal mode BUT that is kinda the idea. The casual players complained that hm was to hard and bam here ya go.
Not to mention what team build in a pug group can kill malyax?

If I was to see a nerf of the use of cons it would be no chests spawn in the zone and if they are there they disappear when a con is used. Gets ya through the objective, just at a price. 10 skill points isn't enough not like My main doesn't have 700+ unused now lol.

/not signed this idea
/signed for a fix